The Study of Racialism

MP mulattoprince · Wizard Joined: 10 Apr 2007 {Posts: 464 }

Whites one drop out of tradition, and it is very beneficial for them to. Because it allows them to have more power culturally with out having to worry about a third race. When you are put under the ODR it makes it easier to control you because blacks will help police you. This benefits whites, and makes mulattoes have to live according to semi predictable out comes.

chip · Posted: Wed 08 Oct 2008 17:56 Post subject:

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fwsweet · Posted: Thu 09 Oct 2008 13:22 Post subject: Re: Whites and the ODR

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chip · Posted: Thu 09 Oct 2008 18:10 Post subject:

As far as I know I'm just a typical white guy from the South, yet I wouldn't have any problem whatsoever if I had African roots. Honestly, when you get down to it we all trace our lineage to Africa anyway, so what in the world is the big deal.

It is even possible that we have some black in our family on my father's mother side, because she was of olive skin even though she was considered white. Her sister(my favorite Aunt) was even darker and had curly black hair.

On a related topic, I'm married to a mixed black women now and if we ever separate I would never marry another "pure" race women, in fact I wouldn't pick one unless she had at least some african blood in her - does that make me a "one dropper" then? Wink

girlfromthenc · Mentor Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 214 }

G-Man · Moderator Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 2612 }

From the story one white simply saw him as black. It wasn't clear from your story that they displayed discomfort with him as someone who identified as multiracial. I’m not even sure he made an issue of his background on the show.

As I read it, the boyfriend displayed more uncertainty as to what he really was as opposed to hostility at his ambiguity. The girlfriend seemed sure he must have been black, which was the default classification for her.

BTW, isn’t Guarini related to Samuel Jackson?

sagascend · Moderator Joined: 17 Jun 2006 {Posts: 2087 }

A couple of weeks ago when I was in Chicago, a group of young women (probably 23-27) were walking by me. I heard one of them describing a friend by saying something to the effect of "Yeah she looks White but she isn't. She's got something else in her." Eyeballing them, they looked like Euro American farm girls from the Midwest, people that would be labeled "White" in the U.S. This isn't the first time I have heard White folks onedropping and it will be far from the last time.

Now I have no idea whether they were discussing a genetically mixed individual of partial SSA, Asian or NA descent, but this statement is totally nonsensical anywhere but in the U.S. Both Blacks and Whites in the U.S. make sense of this idea on a daily basis. I see no reason to conclude that Whites do not one drop and haven't seen persuasive evidence to conclude that Blacks onedrop more.

chip · Posted: Tue 21 Oct 2008 19:57 Post subject:

I am of course aware of one dropping by whites, growing up in the South. However, it wasn't extensive as many people may believe. Truth be told that this might be mitigated by the fact that I never ran with the popular crowd for numerous reason, some of it due to my Catholic beliefs and others because somehow I was "unfit" to be invited in.

Before I had come across this forum, I was not really sure if I even heard or knew what one dropping meant. I do remember that there was the girl in high school, that even though she was "white", she had some multiracial features like super kinky hair and full lips and a skin color that was different from Europen "white". Needless to say, I had a crush on her as she was quite attractive. On a side note, she ran with the in crowd, something I never could do - so I never considered approaching her being the wimp I was.

I really have come to the conclusion that only intermarrying will do away with the blight of racism. Over time like in other countries it will no longer be a big deal. Also the fact that mixed race people are arguably some of the most handsome of God's people (excuse my apparent prejudice) should help expedite the process as they become more and more numerous.

gemini072 · Moderator Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 2678 }

girlfromthenc · Mentor Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 214 }

I think Hispanics of obvious African descent are not called Blacks because most Americans see them as neither Black nor White. I've seen similar situations where obviously European looking Latinos are explained as being of "Hispanic origin" and right beside it there's a White American woman described as being of "Caucasian descent".

But G-man brought up a very good observation I noticed too. This Central American versus Carribbean Latino rift. The Mexicans at my former job use to do this same thing as well. Two of them told me that they thought I was "Puerto Rican". I found that strange because most Puerto Ricans I have seen were quite light skinned and only one I've met had coarse hair. I found out some time later that all Latinos that are considered mixed or Black looking are often questioned whether they are Puerto Ricans including many Afro-Mexicans. I had one Mexican guy question me about Beyonce really being African-American. He kept asking me if I was sure. I kept saying "yes, everybody knows this". He keeps looking at me like he doesn't believe me and telling me that he thinks she's Puerto Rican. Laughing

Again, I wanted to know where he was meeting all these Black looking kinky haired Puerto Ricans at . Many PRs are Whiter looking than him.

As G-man got at earlier, I think many Central Americans have got it in their heads that Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are the only Latinos mixed with Blacks. Cubans I've noticed are normally exempt by other Hispanics because light skin Cubans got out of their way to draw the line between Black and White Cubans.

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