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light skinned black/biracials historical figures
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Nov 2007 20:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like a "Which black american isn't mixed" list would be easier to compile. lol
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jul 2008 18:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

No disrespect intended, but there are indeed "monoracial" blacks who aren't mixed with anything at all.


This is as true of the United States as it is anywhere else, IMO.


Anonymouse...you're a great guy and all but don't you think your statement is a bit false? I don't want to be accused of attributing motives so I apologize in advance...it simply seems like you're overlooking the point of this forum when you make a statement like that.

There are AA's who are not mixed and if they are, the mixture is somewhat distant or hardly acknowledged in most cases. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue 05 Aug 2008 15:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

triguy wrote:
Creole GAL wrote:
I agree with triguy.

I think it is basically Hollyweird. The actor (tress) having a name has much to do with casting in a biopic.
Vanessa Williams , who is a popular and big name, pretty, black, but grey-eyed, etc. played in the tv biopic of Heneritte DeLille. One big problem there is that Heneritte DeLille was a free woman of color, and I think she was a guadroon or octoroon and looked white. Vanessa Williams looks black and is black. It would have been a more interesting story and controverisal and ratings getter if the lead was casted by a white actress with dark hair. It also would have been more true if a white actress was casted in this part.


Vanessa Williams is mixed and looks mixed. She has very light brown skin. In some Latin America countries, Williams would be considered "white."

Also, because someone is a quadroon doesn't mean that he or she will look "white."


IMO, and I should have said that, in my opinion and where I come from, Vanessa Willimas looks Black American and would be taken so as Black America. I am a firm believer in you are what you are , but you are what you look like and thus will be taken as what you look like.

Now ,about movies Hollywoodizing people, well it is not always accurate ,but it is a commercial thing. It would have been better and accurate and even a little controversial to have Mother Henriette DeLille played by a White American actress. Mother Henriette DeLille, it bugs me to no end that she is referred to as an African American . It is an injustice to call her African American when she was not. If you check out information about her from the Sister of the Holy Family website, and online, you will see where it now says African American because even they are conforming to current times and the current trend . It is not true and it truely takes away from her story. The big deal about H. DeLille is that she gave up a lot, a good and comfortable life. She was born to have a good life. I know today 's terms is "being a rich guy's mistress," and I do not condone that behavior ,but we are talking about the lifestyle of the people at the day and age. That is the way it was. No, it would not and I am not making light of any African American heros of history like Harriet Tubman. H. Tubman was a true hero and a courageous woman. H. DeLille gave up a privileged life to God, to help Blacks , Nat. Americans, orphans, and the poor. That is what makes her life so interesting. I have forgotten what percentage of Mother DeLille was Frencah , Spainsh, Black, but yes, she did look White.
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PostPosted: Tue 05 Aug 2008 17:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Creole GAL wrote:
triguy wrote:
Creole GAL wrote:
I agree with triguy.

I think it is basically Hollyweird. The actor (tress) having a name has much to do with casting in a biopic.
Vanessa Williams , who is a popular and big name, pretty, black, but grey-eyed, etc. played in the tv biopic of Heneritte DeLille. One big problem there is that Heneritte DeLille was a free woman of color, and I think she was a guadroon or octoroon and looked white. Vanessa Williams looks black and is black. It would have been a more interesting story and controverisal and ratings getter if the lead was casted by a white actress with dark hair. It also would have been more true if a white actress was casted in this part.


Vanessa Williams is mixed and looks mixed. She has very light brown skin. In some Latin America countries, Williams would be considered "white."

Also, because someone is a quadroon doesn't mean that he or she will look "white."


IMO, and I should have said that, in my opinion and where I come from, Vanessa Willimas looks Black American and would be taken so as Black America. I am a firm believer in you are what you are , but you are what you look like and thus will be taken as what you look like.

I understand what your saying, but I believe what your actually saying is you can tell she is of SSancestry or you can tell she is of SSA admixture... something like that.


Now ,about movies Hollywoodizing people, well it is not always accurate ,but it is a commercial thing. It would have been better and accurate and even a little controversial to have Mother Henriette DeLille played by a White American actress. Mother Henriette DeLille, it bugs me to no end that she is referred to as an African American . It is an injustice to call her African American when she was not. If you check out information about her from the Sister of the Holy Family website, and online, you will see where it now says African American because even they are conforming to current times and the current trend . It is not true and it truely takes away from her story. The big deal about H. DeLille is that she gave up a lot, a good and comfortable life. She was born to have a good life. I know today 's terms is "being a rich guy's mistress," and I do not condone that behavior ,but we are talking about the lifestyle of the people at the day and age. That is the way it was. No, it would not and I am not making light of any African American heros of history like Harriet Tubman. H. Tubman was a true hero and a courageous woman. H. DeLille gave up a privileged life to God, to help Blacks , Nat. Americans, orphans, and the poor. That is what makes her life so interesting. I have forgotten what percentage of Mother DeLille was Frencah , Spainsh, Black, but yes, she did look White.
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