The Study of Racialism Discussion of U.S. Racialism Please read The Rules before posting.    FAQ   Search     Register     Log in  ' Proposed Study of A-A Attractiveness Goto page Previous  1, 2          The Study of Racialism Forum Index -> Molecular Anthropology and Genetics Author Message fwsweet Administrator Joined: 26 Nov 2004 {Posts: 4537 } Location: Palm Coast, FL Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007 17:18    Post subject: Salsassin wrote: sagascend wrote: Less work, good. More work, bad. Though I wonder if using a gut feel attractiveness test would make choosing symmetrical faces more likely anyway? Let's do the ST/NM test and see what happens. Also, what is our targeted population? I say a small questionaire before that asks self identity and sex. That way we can categorize answers for Black males, Mixed, and White, and other. The results of females and others would be tangential, but we could see what White Mixed and Black men find attractive as to females. I hate say it, but I don't think that a web page questionnaire would mean anything. Back to top Salsassin Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 } Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007 17:23    Post subject: fwsweet wrote: Salsassin wrote: sagascend wrote: Less work, good. More work, bad. Though I wonder if using a gut feel attractiveness test would make choosing symmetrical faces more likely anyway? Let's do the ST/NM test and see what happens. Also, what is our targeted population? I say a small questionaire before that asks self identity and sex. That way we can categorize answers for Black males, Mixed, and White, and other. The results of females and others would be tangential, but we could see what White Mixed and Black men find attractive as to females. I hate say it, but I don't think that a web page questionnaire would mean anything. Suggestions? Back to top sagascend Moderator Joined: 17 Jun 2006 {Posts: 2087 } Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007 17:42    Post subject: Salsassin wrote: fwsweet wrote: Salsassin wrote: sagascend wrote: Less work, good. More work, bad. Though I wonder if using a gut feel attractiveness test would make choosing symmetrical faces more likely anyway? Let's do the ST/NM test and see what happens. Also, what is our targeted population? I say a small questionaire before that asks self identity and sex. That way we can categorize answers for Black males, Mixed, and White, and other. The results of females and others would be tangential, but we could see what White Mixed and Black men find attractive as to females. I hate say it, but I don't think that a web page questionnaire would mean anything. Suggestions? What are we going for here? A baseline? If so then a web-based study would work. Especially if ODR members were willing to pass on the link to people they knew. If we are after more powerful data then I'd say we need more independent empirical measurements of this phenomenon as well, like counts of couples, or experiments (a dark, light, medium single female goes into some bars, etc.). Back to top fwsweet Administrator Joined: 26 Nov 2004 {Posts: 4537 } Location: Palm Coast, FL Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007 18:00    Post subject: Salsassin wrote: So bottom line, what types of images do we need to gather and what types of images do we need to morph? Are we just gathering ST1NM1 and ST4NM4's and creating the gradation between them? or do we the whole range in pictures and figure out where the different people fall? Or a combo of both? How many of each type do we need? Unless it is harder to do, I would pick an ST1NM1 and an ST4NM4 and create the gradations in between. This would give 16 pictures. Then repeat the process three times, for 48 pictures in all. I think that I can tweak the timing interactively. Start slow. Each time that the subject hits the button before time-out, speed up a little. The first time that he misses one, stop speeding up. Regarding subject data, I guess there is no harm in asking. Do we want anything besides sex and self-identity? Back to top sagascend Moderator Joined: 17 Jun 2006 {Posts: 2087 } Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007 18:27    Post subject: fwsweet wrote: Do we want anything besides sex and self-identity? How about age, nationality and geographic location? Back to top Salsassin Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 } Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007 19:26    Post subject: Sounds good. I'll let you guys choose the ST1NM1s and an ST4NM4s Email or PM them to me and I will morph and send them to Frank. So I need 3 of each. By the way, if we grade them by ST1 through ST4 it means we will not have any person with the middle phenotype. just 100% ST1, 67% ST1 33% ST1 and 0% ST1 Same for NMs Back to top Salsassin Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 } Posted: Fri 06 Jul 2007 14:15    Post subject: If I could get a good picture of young celia cruz (looking straight at the camera), she would be a perfect example of a light skinned broad featured woman. albeit a taino-african nose. Back to top fwsweet Administrator Joined: 26 Nov 2004 {Posts: 4537 } Location: Palm Coast, FL Posted: Fri 06 Jul 2007 16:25    Post subject: Salsassin wrote: If we grade them by ST1 through ST4 it means we will not have any person with the middle phenotype. just 100% ST1, 67% ST1 33% ST1 and 0% ST1 Same for NMs Actually, for our purposes, a 3 x 3 x 3 matrix would probably be just as good. This would give 27 photos in all, instead of 48. Back to top Salsassin Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 } Posted: Fri 06 Jul 2007 16:35    Post subject: OK. So you need to find the 6 matrix people. And we can pepper the test with a buch of other pictures that don't count just to throw off the person who is trying to read the pattern. Back to top fwsweet Administrator Joined: 26 Nov 2004 {Posts: 4537 } Location: Palm Coast, FL Posted: Thu 12 Jul 2007 23:57    Post subject: Okay. I have a first-draft of the data collection program ready for testing. Click here to try it out. I need some faces. (Jaime?) I need an up-front paragraph explaining what this is all about. (Maya?) Back to top caribj Suspended Joined: 14 Mar 2007 {Posts: 437 } Posted: Fri 13 Jul 2007 01:07    Post subject: Salsassin wrote: If I could get a good picture of young celia cruz (looking straight at the camera), she would be a perfect example of a light skinned broad featured woman. albeit a taino-african nose. I dont consider Celia to be light skinned. Back to top Salsassin Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 } Posted: Fri 13 Jul 2007 13:27    Post subject: caribj wrote: Salsassin wrote: If I could get a good picture of young celia cruz (looking straight at the camera), she would be a perfect example of a light skinned broad featured woman. albeit a taino-african nose. I dont consider Celia to be light skinned. Medium skinned then. Back to top Grasshoppa Experienced User Joined: 07 Oct 2007 {Posts: 188 } Location: United States Posted: Sun 13 Jul 2008 07:09    Post subject: What happened to this. Seems it would have been an interesting little thing. Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         The Study of Racialism Forum Index -> Molecular Anthropology and Genetics All times are GMT Goto page Previous  1, 2 Page 2 of 2 Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group