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PostPosted: Thu 10 Jul 2008 20:03    Post subject: Denise Richards Reply with quote




A few weeks ago, an unflattering recorded voice mail left by Denise Richard's ex-husband, Charlie Sheen, was made public. On it, an irate Sheen can be heard verbally thrashing Richards even dropping the N-bomb on her at one point, which is why it was a big story (for a couple of days anyhow). Needless to say, the gossip messageboards for both Sheen and Richards were flooded about this topic. Most people defended Sheen claiming he's not a racist and that anybody of any ethnic background can be called the N-word without the term necessarily being an insult specifically toward African-Americans. But there were at least a few people who mentioned that Denise had (or has) a black grandparent, which is why Sheen chose to use that particular slur against her....It could be just a rumor or flat out lie. Has anyone else ever heard something about Richards having a black grandparent?
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Jul 2008 22:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow i can't wait to find out the truth also Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Jul 2008 23:55    Post subject: Reply with quote


Father, Irv Richards


Mother, Joni Richards

I highly doubt she has a Black grand parent. It would have to be a multiracial Black person with hevy admixture then.
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2008 00:45    Post subject: Re: Denise Richards Reply with quote

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A few weeks ago, an unflattering recorded voice mail left by Denise Richard's ex-husband, Charlie Sheen, was made public. On it, an irate Sheen can be heard verbally thrashing Richards even dropping the N-bomb on her at one point, which is why it was a big story (for a couple of days anyhow). Needless to say, the gossip messageboards for both Sheen and Richards were flooded about this topic. Most people defended Sheen claiming he's not a racist and that anybody of any ethnic background can be called the N-word without the term necessarily being an insult specifically toward African-Americans. But there were at least a few people who mentioned that Denise had (or has) a black grandparent, which is why Sheen chose to use that particular slur against her....It could be just a rumor or flat out lie. Has anyone else ever heard something about Richards having a black grandparent?


I really don't know the heritage of Denise Richards, currently she has a Caucasian phenotype, and I am sure she identifies as such.

Whether or not the rumors are true, it is difficult, just IMO, for the N* word to hold much potency coming from someone named Carlos Estevez(AKA Charlie Sheen). He is 1/4 Spaniard I believe and not saying that excuses it, but I know 2 Spaniards (one of Northern Italian the other of German ancestry) they both use the N* word I also know of other Caucasians that have Latin heritage that drop N* bombs in everyday conversation.

It was weird hearing that word come from people as Caucasian as some of my Latin friends ( and two Spaniard ones) but I am southerner who had pigs & goats and they are urban in the NYC area, so I have learned to tolerate, though I don't fully accept. It is about choosing your battles.
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2008 07:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a couple of websites and the most they say is that her mother has Croatian ancestry and her father has Welsh, if any other ancestry is there, I can't find it online.


http://people.famouswhy.com/denise_richards

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Croatian_Americans

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000612/bio
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2008 11:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I found a couple of websites and the most they say is that her mother has Croatian ancestry and her father has Welsh, if any other ancestry is there, I can't find it online.

Ah well, that explains it. We all know about those Welsh. (See Madison Grant).
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2008 12:08    Post subject: Re: Denise Richards Reply with quote

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Whether or not the rumors are true, it is difficult, just IMO, for the N* word to hold much potency coming from someone named Carlos Estevez(AKA Charlie Sheen). He is 1/4 Spaniard I believe and not saying that excuses it, but I know 2 Spaniards (one of Northern Italian the other of German ancestry) they both use the N* word I also know of other Caucasians that have Latin heritage that drop N* bombs in everyday conversation.

It was weird hearing that word come from people as Caucasian as some of my Latin friends ( and two Spaniard ones) but I am southerner who had pigs & goats and they are urban in the NYC area, so I have learned to tolerate, though I don't fully accept. It is about choosing your battles.

Urban NY yes. But Not common in Latin cultures elsewhere. But Charlie was born in the city, so that could be the case.
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2008 13:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I found a couple of websites and the most they say is that her mother has Croatian ancestry and her father has Welsh, if any other ancestry is there, I can't find it online.

Ah well, that explains it. We all know about those Welsh. (See Madison Grant).



The Welsh connection is possible, if you look at Ryan Giggs (Manchester United and Wales soccer player ) whose father is Half black and mother is white Welsh, perhaps at least a black or half black grandparent for Denise is a possibility.



http://www.intermix.org.uk/word_up/word_up_06_ryan.asp
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I found a couple of websites and the most they say is that her mother has Croatian ancestry and her father has Welsh, if any other ancestry is there, I can't find it online.

Ah well, that explains it. We all know about those Welsh. (See Madison Grant).



The Welsh connection is possible, if you look at Ryan Giggs (Manchester United and Wales soccer player ) whose father is Half black and mother is white Welsh, perhaps at least a black or half black grandparent for Denise is a possibility.



http://www.intermix.org.uk/word_up/word_up_06_ryan.asp

Highly speculative though. We could basically say that about anyone.
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2008 15:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Welsh connection is possible, if you look at Ryan Giggs (Manchester United and Wales soccer player ) whose father is Half black and mother is white Welsh, perhaps at least a black or half black grandparent for Denise is a possibility.

I was talking about Madison Grant reporting that native-born Welsh are not members of the White (Nordic nor even Alpine) "race." Instead, according to him, the Welsh are the same "race" as Berbers and Arabs.

Of course, since nobody takes Grant seriously any more, I meant it with tongue in cheek.
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I found a couple of websites and the most they say is that her mother has Croatian ancestry and her father has Welsh, if any other ancestry is there, I can't find it online.

Ah well, that explains it. We all know about those Welsh. (See Madison Grant).



The Welsh connection is possible, if you look at Ryan Giggs (Manchester United and Wales soccer player ) whose father is Half black and mother is white Welsh, perhaps at least a black or half black grandparent for Denise is a possibility.



http://www.intermix.org.uk/word_up/word_up_06_ryan.asp

Highly speculative though. We could basically say that about anyone.



Yes i know Very Happy , I wasn't trying to say anything definitive, but to point at the direction of her Welsh lineage as a place to look for any possible Mixed ancestry.
Who would ever know with her, if she has any mixed blood it would be small, but i have often wondered about this Actress Andie MacDowell. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2008 18:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes i know Very Happy , I wasn't trying to say anything definitive, but to point at the direction of her Welsh lineage as a place to look for any possible Mixed ancestry.
Who would ever know with her, if she has any mixed blood it would be small, but i have often wondered about this Actress Andie MacDowell. Very Happy


I really love South Carolina, they have some of the most exotic looking Caucasians in the U.S., must be the H2-0 Laughing .
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Yes i know Very Happy , I wasn't trying to say anything definitive, but to point at the direction of her Welsh lineage as a place to look for any possible Mixed ancestry.
Who would ever know with her, if she has any mixed blood it would be small, but i have often wondered about this Actress Andie MacDowell. Very Happy


I really love South Carolina, they have some of the most exotic looking Caucasians in the U.S., must be the H2-0 Laughing .

LOL. What is exotic about them? Maybe I'm missing something. I have been in Greenville, Columbia and Myrtle Beach.
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Yes i know Very Happy , I wasn't trying to say anything definitive, but to point at the direction of her Welsh lineage as a place to look for any possible Mixed ancestry.
Who would ever know with her, if she has any mixed blood it would be small, but i have often wondered about this Actress Andie MacDowell. Very Happy


I really love South Carolina, they have some of the most exotic looking Caucasians in the U.S., must be the H2-0 Laughing .

LOL. What is exotic about them? Maybe I'm missing something. I have been in Greenville, Columbia and Myrtle Beach.


I just think that Caucasians in South Carolina more so than any other state will have some very interesting admixture results. Georgia as well, but not as much as South Carolina. I have seen a couple of MGM family trees with overly extended Caucasian branches.
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Yes i know Very Happy , I wasn't trying to say anything definitive, but to point at the direction of her Welsh lineage as a place to look for any possible Mixed ancestry.
Who would ever know with her, if she has any mixed blood it would be small, but i have often wondered about this Actress Andie MacDowell. Very Happy


I really love South Carolina, they have some of the most exotic looking Caucasians in the U.S., must be the H2-0 Laughing .

LOL. What is exotic about them? Maybe I'm missing something. I have been in Greenville, Columbia and Myrtle Beach.


I just think that Caucasians in South Carolina more so than any other state will have some very interesting admixture results. Georgia as well, but not as much as South Carolina. I have seen a couple of MGM family trees with overly extended Caucasian branches.


Very Interesting, do you have any pics of them per chance Very Happy
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Yes i know Very Happy , I wasn't trying to say anything definitive, but to point at the direction of her Welsh lineage as a place to look for any possible Mixed ancestry.
Who would ever know with her, if she has any mixed blood it would be small, but i have often wondered about this Actress Andie MacDowell. Very Happy


I really love South Carolina, they have some of the most exotic looking Caucasians in the U.S., must be the H2-0 Laughing .

LOL. What is exotic about them? Maybe I'm missing something. I have been in Greenville, Columbia and Myrtle Beach.


I just think that Caucasians in South Carolina more so than any other state will have some very interesting admixture results. Georgia as well, but not as much as South Carolina. I have seen a couple of MGM family trees with overly extended Caucasian branches.


Very Interesting, do you have any pics of them per chance Very Happy



You're kidding right? I don't think I would out my own family's MGM branches, so outing somebody else's Caucasian ones would just be wrong.
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onlyhuman77 wrote:
Spiral wrote:
onlyhuman77 wrote:
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onlyhuman77 wrote:
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Yes i know Very Happy , I wasn't trying to say anything definitive, but to point at the direction of her Welsh lineage as a place to look for any possible Mixed ancestry.
Who would ever know with her, if she has any mixed blood it would be small, but i have often wondered about this Actress Andie MacDowell. Very Happy


I really love South Carolina, they have some of the most exotic looking Caucasians in the U.S., must be the H2-0 Laughing .

LOL. What is exotic about them? Maybe I'm missing something. I have been in Greenville, Columbia and Myrtle Beach.


I just think that Caucasians in South Carolina more so than any other state will have some very interesting admixture results. Georgia as well, but not as much as South Carolina. I have seen a couple of MGM family trees with overly extended Caucasian branches.


Very Interesting, do you have any pics of them per chance Very Happy



You're kidding right? I don't think I would out my own family's MGM branches, so outing somebody else's Caucasian ones would just be wrong.


Geez, i was not thinking of personal family photos , unless it was ok with the particular person or family, i thought you would look for them from the Net because you said :
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I really love South Carolina, they have some of the most exotic looking Caucasians in the U.S., must be the H2-0 Laughing .


So i wanted to see what you are talking about, i mean i could go and look for pics of People from South Carolina but i won't know if these are the people you are talking about.
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Spiral wrote:
onlyhuman77 wrote:
Spiral wrote:
onlyhuman77 wrote:
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onlyhuman77 wrote:
Spiral wrote:


Yes i know Very Happy , I wasn't trying to say anything definitive, but to point at the direction of her Welsh lineage as a place to look for any possible Mixed ancestry.
Who would ever know with her, if she has any mixed blood it would be small, but i have often wondered about this Actress Andie MacDowell. Very Happy


I really love South Carolina, they have some of the most exotic looking Caucasians in the U.S., must be the H2-0 Laughing .

LOL. What is exotic about them? Maybe I'm missing something. I have been in Greenville, Columbia and Myrtle Beach.


I just think that Caucasians in South Carolina more so than any other state will have some very interesting admixture results. Georgia as well, but not as much as South Carolina. I have seen a couple of MGM family trees with overly extended Caucasian branches.


Very Interesting, do you have any pics of them per chance Very Happy



You're kidding right? I don't think I would out my own family's MGM branches, so outing somebody else's Caucasian ones would just be wrong.


Geez, i was not thinking of personal family photos , unless it was ok with the particular person or family, i thought you would look for them from the Net because you said :
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I really love South Carolina, they have some of the most exotic looking Caucasians in the U.S., must be the H2-0 Laughing .


So i wanted to see what you are talking about, i mean i could go and look for pics of People from South Carolina but i won't know if these are the people you are talking about.


Families I speak of are those that I grew up with in Ga, with extended family in South Carolina.

And as far as how these Caucasian's look, they look like Caucasians, yeah some look like they have more admixture than others, but Caucasian nonetheless
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Sounds like you are speaking of looks common in populations like the Lumbee or Melungeons, for example.
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