The Study of Racialism

anonymouse · Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 }

[The following was split from a thread about an actor in the "Popular People" forum. I agree with the moderator and with both members (Lill and Anonymouse) that the subject had drifted from the actor whose thread that was. Nevertheless, the question of whether the 50-year-long Jim Crow wave of state-sponsored terrorism against African-American citizens caused today's anti-Black racism/racialism or was itself merely caused by a deeper, earlier anti-Black racism/racialism is so deserving of serious discussion that I hate to see it end. I would really like to see the discussion continue here. -- FWS]

Lill · New User Joined: 21 Dec 2007 {Posts: 43 } Location: Sweden

I really don't know, but I think maybe it is mostly because of the Jim Crow law, because I don't believe that everyone in America would think that way.

Your other question is that I think that when they cast people of colour without thinking about how they look.
I totally agree someone who wrote about it in another topic on this site, they wrote about a movie about the Creoles, I'm sorry but I don't remember the movies name and neither the topic or thread. i have looked but I can't find it.

anonymouse · Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 }

Lill · New User Joined: 21 Dec 2007 {Posts: 43 } Location: Sweden

Anonymouse wrote:
"This was the law of the land sanctioned by federal courts which cited "states rights" and with a wink and a nod allowed it to continue for almost 100 years. To suggest America's view on race is because of the Jim Crow laws is a case of putting the cart before the horse which basically means you've got it backwards. The Jim Crow period is a result of white Americans view on race."

I see what you mean and I totally agree but what I meant was that that Jim Crow law that lasted for over 100 year has made people that maybe not are racists to believe that if someone has an ancestor who was black way back, is also black, even when the person doesn't look black at all. I mean FSweeets students aren't guilty of the Jim crow law and I don't think that they consider them self racist and I don't think that they are. Do you understand what I'm saying?

anonymouse · Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 }

Lill · New User Joined: 21 Dec 2007 {Posts: 43 } Location: Sweden

I don't think you understand what I mean, but since the topic isn't this issue I also end the discussion here. Smile

anonymouse · Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 }

Well now that it has been spun off we can continue this discussion. If you do not think that I understand what you are saying could yo try to clarify it for me?

fwsweet · Posted: Fri 04 Apr 2008 15:36 Post subject:

Lill · New User Joined: 21 Dec 2007 {Posts: 43 } Location: Sweden

I don't think that it is possible to say either one is the correct explanation or what I mean is that it could be both, don't you think?
Ok Jim Crow was created because people in America and the government were racists, but back then people didn't know so much. Just think about how children were treated at that time and what people in general knew about the world and believed in back then.
When I think about it: if Jim Crow law wasn't created; some people would still be racists and everthing else was the same in US history, except for Jim Crow and having to check the box etc, would people today in general think the same of black people and black blood as something that contaminates?

anonymouse · Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 }

Lill · New User Joined: 21 Dec 2007 {Posts: 43 } Location: Sweden

No I don't think I have it backwards. I believe that it would be different in USA if it wasn't for the ODR. One example is that no one would have to check any boxes to say what "they are".
In other countries people don't have to write down what origin they are or what colour they have when they are in contact with the government or applaying for a job or school. For me it is really absurd that people in America have been doing this for so long time!!!!!
When I first heard about it I didn't believe it. It must be awful, especially for the minorities.
By the way if you want to know what made me angry about casting black actors read my answer in the "Popular people" about Thandie Newton.

anonymouse · Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 }

Lill · New User Joined: 21 Dec 2007 {Posts: 43 } Location: Sweden

Maybe I don't understand well enough because English isn't my first language. But I haev been saying the same thing all the time and that is: if the One Drop Rule never was created, people today in general wouldn't believe that "black blood, even as little as one drop, makes someone black as if black blood is contaminating. And I also think that the Jim crow law was created because people were racists, BUT if the law wasn't created then maybe people today wouldn't be as racist and maybe black people would have better self esteem than they have in USA society today.

anonymouse · Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 }