The Study of Racialism Discussion of U.S. Racialism Please read The Rules before posting.    FAQ   Search     Register     Log in  ' anonymouse - the troll Goto page 1, 2  Next          The Study of Racialism Forum Index -> Site Management Author Message ImBack Wizard Joined: 28 Jun 2006 {Posts: 587 } Posted: Fri 04 Jul 2008 21:16    Post subject: anonymouse - the troll anonymouse Get rid of this guy. He's a troll and only causing problems. Back to top gemini072 Moderator Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 2678 } Posted: Sat 05 Jul 2008 03:17    Post subject: I disagree that he's a troll and you have caused more than your share of problems yourself young man. You should be the last to talk about getting rid of someone. Last edited by gemini072 on Sun 06 Jul 2008 01:11; edited 1 time in total Back to top Richard Miller Mentor Joined: 26 May 2007 {Posts: 394 } Location: San Antonio, Texas Posted: Sat 05 Jul 2008 13:46    Post subject: Re: anonymouse - the troll ImBack wrote: anonymouse Get rid of this guy. He's a troll and only causing problems. Back to top anonymouse Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 } Posted: Sat 05 Jul 2008 20:12    Post subject: Re: anonymouse - the troll ImBack wrote: anonymouse Get rid of this guy. He's a troll and only causing problems. You posted a hypothesis regarding white supremacy and I picked it apart. Now I'm a troll who is only causing problems. Gotcha. Last edited by anonymouse on Mon 07 Jul 2008 20:48; edited 2 times in total Back to top ImBack Wizard Joined: 28 Jun 2006 {Posts: 587 } Posted: Sun 06 Jul 2008 06:04    Post subject: I apologize. You are all most correct. Annonymouse was just putting his two cents to something I posted and that's exactly What I wanted anyway. Excuse me. Back to top DChapman Moderator Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 1442 } Location: Hudson Valley, NY Posted: Mon 07 Jul 2008 13:20    Post subject: gemini072 wrote: I disagree that he's a troll and you have caused more than your share of problems yourself young man. You should be the last to talk about getting rid of someone. I agree completely. Back to top anonymouse Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 } Posted: Mon 07 Jul 2008 17:30    Post subject: Don't worry ImBack - my time posting on this messageboard is winding down so in a way you will get your wish. I feel that my contributions are not appreciated, I tire of having my words purposely misstated and misconstrued, being called a liar, a racialist and other names for no other reason (that I have been able to discern) other than because I do not march instep with certain individuals personal beliefs regarding race, racialism and racial relations. I may pop in from time-2-time and post in the Caribbean section and maybe the popular people section but that is about it. The Mouse is out Back to top fwsweet Administrator Joined: 26 Nov 2004 {Posts: 4527 } Location: Palm Coast, FL Posted: Mon 07 Jul 2008 21:00    Post subject: anonymouse wrote: I tire of ... being called a liar, a racialist and other names ... You have 24 hours to produce a message number where you were called a liar or a racialist. Failing that, your posting priviledge will be suspended. Back to top anonymouse Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 } Posted: Mon 07 Jul 2008 22:02    Post subject: I state that I choose to no longer be an active member of this board because of the treatment I have received and you want me to prove it and cite message numbers? You've GOT to be kidding me!!! But in order to satisfy you I will look them up later. Back to top anonymouse Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 } Posted: Tue 08 Jul 2008 13:40    Post subject: fwsweet wrote: anonymouse wrote: I tire of ... being called a liar, a racialist and other names ... You have 24 hours to produce a message number where you were called a liar or a racialist. Failing that, your posting priviledge will be suspended. In this thread in the 10th post you stated fwsweet wrote: Donning my administrator's hat once again, I now question whether Anonymouse has any connection to Trinidad or to the British West Indies. .... fwsweet wrote: ...But Anonymouse has implied that his claim of having Trinidadian roots exempts him from the rules. I suggest that this claim is spurious and that this will affect his credibility in the future. And then in the same thread he stated fwsweet wrote: I stand by my assessment that Anonymouse's claim of being a Trini is fraudulent, and that he has never set foot outside of the United States. BTW: I have never claimed to be Trinidadian nor Tobagonian Back to top Salsassin Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 } Posted: Tue 08 Jul 2008 14:47    Post subject: Eh, I just scrolled through all your posts where you used Trini. You are right in that you never claimed to be Trini, but American of West Indian ancestry in Barbados. But you sure made a lot of claims about Trinis. While Black is accepted by many as a generic term in the Caribbean, all Douglas are not seen as Black in Trinidad, nor do all douglas see themselves as that. Your claims fall short. I do realize you are not using it in as much a racial sense as the Anglo-Caribbean hypodescent usage where as the majority are Black, most people just claim Black. Much like White is the default in the US and when people can fit in with the majority, most do. But in the same vein that you argue Whiteness isn't the holy grail for everyone, especially those that hold a strong sense of identity in their roots, then, as many will not just identify with Whiteness, many will not just identify with Blackness because of their multiple roots as well. That was the whole conflict of the philosophies of Creolite vs. Negritude that spanned both the Anglo and Francophone islands. Back to top Salsassin Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 } Posted: Tue 08 Jul 2008 15:04    Post subject: By the way, we spoke about this subject a while back. http://onedroprule.org/viewtopic.php?t=3448 Note that we discussed Back as a cultural identifier versus a racial one, but we also noted that people may identify as mixed, but a part of the Black community. In the same token a first generation mixed person might see themselves as part of both the Indian and Black community, etc. Back to top anonymouse Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 } Posted: Tue 08 Jul 2008 16:51    Post subject: Salsassin wrote: Eh, I just scrolled through all your posts where you used Trini. You are right in that you never claimed to be Trini, but American of West Indian ancestry in Barbados. But you sure made a lot of claims about Trinis. While Black is accepted by many as a generic term in the Caribbean, all Douglas are not seen as Black in Trinidad, nor do all douglas see themselves as that. Your claims fall short. I do realize you are not using it in as much a racial sense as the Anglo-Caribbean hypodescent usage where as the majority are Black, most people just claim Black. Much like White is the default in the US and when people can fit in with the majority, most do. But in the same vein that you argue Whiteness isn't the holy grail for everyone, especially those that hold a strong sense of identity in their roots, then, as many will not just identify with Whiteness, many will not just identify with Blackness because of their multiple roots as well. That was the whole conflict of the philosophies of Creolite vs. Negritude that spanned both the Anglo and Francophone islands. I have family in Trinidad and some might say I know quite a bit about the people. Oh I know all doulas are not seen as "just black" - by definition they are multiracial. But how they are referred to depends on their appearance. For example the older of these two dougla boys for the most part would probably not be referred to as black. This picture is a few years old and as they have gotten older the one on the right looks even less "black" while the one on the left looks more "black" albeit with curly curly hair This woman in the purple on the left is seen as black (she is trini). She always gets confused looks when she tells people her last name (he has an Indian surname). She too is a dougla. Curiously enough the woman on the right identifies as Indian but both sides of her family are mixed with black. Same as this chap (he is one of my closest friends and is really tri-racial: father was East Indian, mother is a black/buck mix). But he is referred to and calls himself black since that is the ethnicity that stands out the most. So with regards to race in the Caribbean I would never refer only to whites and blacks, as I have been accused of. To do so when discussing racial relations in places like Trinidad and Guyana would be silly since East Indians and Blacks are the two major "races" (Blacks are the majority in Trinidad and Indians are the majority in Guyana) Last edited by anonymouse on Tue 08 Jul 2008 20:25; edited 1 time in total Back to top anonymouse Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 } Posted: Tue 08 Jul 2008 16:54    Post subject: Salsassin wrote: By the way, we spoke about this subject a while back. http://onedroprule.org/viewtopic.php?t=3448 Note that we discussed Back as a cultural identifier versus a racial one, but we also noted that people may identify as mixed, but a part of the Black community. In the same token a first generation mixed person might see themselves as part of both the Indian and Black community, etc. I skimmed through that thread but since I had nothing else to add I refrained from commenting. There is a new board member here named Dahlin that could probably add personal anecdotes to that thread. After her first couple of weeks I realized that we know each other outside of the matrix. Back to top Spiral Regular User Joined: 03 Jan 2008 {Posts: 62 } Location: TnT Posted: Tue 08 Jul 2008 17:11    Post subject: Salsassin wrote: Eh, I just scrolled through all your posts where you used Trini. You are right in that you never claimed to be Trini, but American of West Indian ancestry in Barbados. But you sure made a lot of claims about Trinis. While Black is accepted by many as a generic term in the Caribbean, all Douglas are not seen as Black in Trinidad, nor do all douglas see themselves as that. Your claims fall short. I do realize you are not using it in as much a racial sense as the Anglo-Caribbean hypodescent usage where as the majority are Black, most people just claim Black. Much like White is the default in the US and when people can fit in with the majority, most do. But in the same vein that you argue Whiteness isn't the holy grail for everyone, especially those that hold a strong sense of identity in their roots, then, as many will not just identify with Whiteness, many will not just identify with Blackness because of their multiple roots as well. That was the whole conflict of the philosophies of Creolite vs. Negritude that spanned both the Anglo and Francophone islands. Since most Douglas would of been Rejected by their Indian relatives their Cultural ties and sense of Identity would lean more on the Afro -Trini side of things. I believe that "Black " in certain Anglo Caribbean Societies would mean having Cultural and Historical ties with people of African descent with a bit of ODR thrown in . Back to top anonymouse Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 } Posted: Tue 08 Jul 2008 17:28    Post subject: I didn't want to bring that up. Last edited by anonymouse on Tue 08 Jul 2008 17:35; edited 2 times in total Back to top Spiral Regular User Joined: 03 Jan 2008 {Posts: 62 } Location: TnT Posted: Tue 08 Jul 2008 17:34    Post subject: anonymouse wrote: I didn't want to bring that up. LOL, oh come on .... bite Back to top anonymouse Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 602 } Posted: Tue 08 Jul 2008 17:35    Post subject: Spiral wrote: anonymouse wrote: I didn't want to bring that up. LOL, oh come on .... bite Gramazone. Big enough bite? Start a thread in the Caribbean section and I'll definitely respond Back to top Spiral Regular User Joined: 03 Jan 2008 {Posts: 62 } Location: TnT Posted: Tue 08 Jul 2008 17:38    Post subject: anonymouse wrote: Spiral wrote: anonymouse wrote: I didn't want to bring that up. LOL, oh come on .... bite Gramazone. Big enough bite? Now Now... let's not be Hasty Back to top Salsassin Suspended Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3508 } Posted: Tue 08 Jul 2008 17:57    Post subject: anonymouse wrote: Salsassin wrote: By the way, we spoke about this subject a while back. http://onedroprule.org/viewtopic.php?t=3448 Note that we discussed Back as a cultural identifier versus a racial one, but we also noted that people may identify as mixed, but a part of the Black community. In the same token a first generation mixed person might see themselves as part of both the Indian and Black community, etc. I skimmed through that thread but since I had nothing else to add I refrained from commenting. There is a new board member here named Dahlin that could probably add personal anecdotes to that thread. After her first couple of weeks I realized that we know each other outside of the matrix. Uh, yeah, I know Dahlin as well. I believe it was me who introduced her to this board a while back. Beautiful woman inside and out. 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